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		<title>Comment on To do list mockup by Inception &#171; Nick Jamil&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=26&#038;cpage=1#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>Inception &#171; Nick Jamil&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mentioned me in his blog a few times under the DrProject category. As did Liz Blankenship and my friend Kosta [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Winding down&#8230; by The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liz Blankenship has been thinking about simplifying tickets (a mockup is available); she has also posted some musings about the divergent evolution of Trac and DrProject. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on To do list mockup by The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=26&#038;cpage=1#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blankenship has been thinking about simplifying tickets (a mockup is available); she has also posted some musings about the divergent evolution of Trac and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Simplifying Tickets by The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=19&#038;cpage=1#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer&#8217;s End</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blankenship has been thinking about simplifying tickets (a mockup is available); she has also posted some musings about the divergent evolution of Trac and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Winding down&#8230; by Ludo</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=21&#038;cpage=1#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ludo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

we have been using DrProject in our company (6 fulltimers, 15 partimers) in Slovakia for about 9 moths (after using Trac for about a year).

Our experience are very very good ;-), as I sow your usability sugestions, if they are implemented, I am sure our experience will be even better ;-)

You should push Greg to setup a blog for DrProject, so the development team effort and abilities are more visible! ;-) Take care

Ludo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>we have been using DrProject in our company (6 fulltimers, 15 partimers) in Slovakia for about 9 moths (after using Trac for about a year).</p>
<p>Our experience are very very good <img src='http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , as I sow your usability sugestions, if they are implemented, I am sure our experience will be even better <img src='http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You should push Greg to setup a blog for DrProject, so the development team effort and abilities are more visible! <img src='http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Take care</p>
<p>Ludo</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this project by Designing the DrProject User Experience &#187; Winding down&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?page_id=30&#038;cpage=1#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Designing the DrProject User Experience &#187; Winding down&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] input in the future.  I&#8217;ve made up a page to summarize my efforts on this project under the About this project link in the blog navigation.  It&#8217;s mostly complete now though I&#8217;d like to add some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] input in the future.  I&#8217;ve made up a page to summarize my efforts on this project under the About this project link in the blog navigation.  It&#8217;s mostly complete now though I&#8217;d like to add some [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wiki page created by Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, yeah, linear navigation is quite a change from what we&#039;re used to.  :-)  Luckily, most screen readers have a whole bunch of keyboard commands built in that help you move around.  For instance, with WebAnywhere, try Ctrl-H to skip paste the whole top part of the page to the first actual heading.

I would like if there were a way to skip paste chunks within the navigation though.  That&#039;s where I think maybe tucking the items in a ul might help but I need to play with it first.

Apparently the standard screen readers (which cost money and are better than this web one) have a way of saying that the page has been updated, but I don&#039;t think any of them can identify which part of the page has been updated in order to read just that part.  (Though that really doesn&#039;t seem that hard... just compare the DOM tree?  Hmm...)  I read about a hack that lets you set the focus to an element that has tabindex set to -1 but I want to understand it better before I suggest using it.

Thanks for the link, that&#039;s probably a better part of the site to link developers to than the part of that site I found earlier today.  I&#039;ll add it to the wiki page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, yeah, linear navigation is quite a change from what we&#8217;re used to.  <img src='http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Luckily, most screen readers have a whole bunch of keyboard commands built in that help you move around.  For instance, with WebAnywhere, try Ctrl-H to skip paste the whole top part of the page to the first actual heading.</p>
<p>I would like if there were a way to skip paste chunks within the navigation though.  That&#8217;s where I think maybe tucking the items in a ul might help but I need to play with it first.</p>
<p>Apparently the standard screen readers (which cost money and are better than this web one) have a way of saying that the page has been updated, but I don&#8217;t think any of them can identify which part of the page has been updated in order to read just that part.  (Though that really doesn&#8217;t seem that hard&#8230; just compare the DOM tree?  Hmm&#8230;)  I read about a hack that lets you set the focus to an element that has tabindex set to -1 but I want to understand it better before I suggest using it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, that&#8217;s probably a better part of the site to link developers to than the part of that site I found earlier today.  I&#8217;ll add it to the wiki page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wiki page created by Jeff Balogh</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Balogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it takes *so long* to read a page that way!  Even google.com takes forever; their nav bar at the top has a bunch of &quot;hidden&quot; items, which the reader picks up.

So, it seems like there should be a way of chunking the page, making it easy for the screen reader to jump to a certain section.  This is perhaps possible with link anchors, but there should be a better way, following the structure of the page.  Once you&#039;ve been through the whole page serially, you probably don&#039;t want to do that again.

They probably haven&#039;t standardized this yet, but is there a way to notify the reader when the page is updated through javascript?  Some sort of what&#039;s-new queue?

You probably know most of this already, but one of the dojo a11y experts made a design requirements document at http://www.dojotoolkit.org/developer/A11yReq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it takes *so long* to read a page that way!  Even google.com takes forever; their nav bar at the top has a bunch of &#8220;hidden&#8221; items, which the reader picks up.</p>
<p>So, it seems like there should be a way of chunking the page, making it easy for the screen reader to jump to a certain section.  This is perhaps possible with link anchors, but there should be a better way, following the structure of the page.  Once you&#8217;ve been through the whole page serially, you probably don&#8217;t want to do that again.</p>
<p>They probably haven&#8217;t standardized this yet, but is there a way to notify the reader when the page is updated through javascript?  Some sort of what&#8217;s-new queue?</p>
<p>You probably know most of this already, but one of the dojo a11y experts made a design requirements document at <a href="http://www.dojotoolkit.org/developer/A11yReq" rel="nofollow">http://www.dojotoolkit.org/developer/A11yReq</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Design challenges by The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home Stretch for Students</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home Stretch for Students</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liz Blankenship (and the rest of the DrProject crew) is still working on the &#8216;All problem. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The past few weeks (productive blog neglect) by The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Distributed Single Point of Failure</title>
		<link>http://www.lizblankenship.com/drproject/blog/?p=12&#038;cpage=1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Distributed Single Point of Failure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liz Blankenship has been busy. [...]</description>
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